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SHOW ME THE NAJU FACT ! #8-EP1,2๐Ÿ“ฃDoubts on the Miraculous Spring Water



Show Me the Naju Fact! #8-EP1,2


Doubts on the Miraculous Spring Water


Hello!
Welcome to our show ‘Show Me the Naju Fact’ again. In the previous broadcast, we shared about the origin stories of the Miraculous Spring Water. Many viewers were moved by the devoted and altruistic love of Julia Kim toward her neighbors. And there were many comments saying, “Heaven is also touched and it can’t hold back but keep granting the miracles.”


Jesus and the Blessed Mother saw Julia’s love for others and said, “I’ll give you the Miraculous Spring Water filled with grace through which souls and bodies can be healed.” And truly, there have been countless cases of healing miracles. However, ‘PD Notebook’ and ‘Investigative Report 7’ stirred many rumors and doubts even on these authentic healing miracles. So today, we are going to check the fact regarding this. Let’s talk about it in detail with our two panelists here. Hello.

P, M: 
Hello~

Maria Kwon :
I’d really like to know why they broadcast it arousing doubts. One part in the broadcast ‘PD Notebook’ is about the miracle in Ruteng, Indonesia, which was completely distorted. Let us examine the fact on this part first.


Sr. Michaella: 
Yes. ‘PD Notebook’ aroused doubts in a cunning way and claimed “There was no miracle in Ruteng.” (However, it is definitely not true.) Many miracles occurred in Ruteng. There were a lot of priests, religious and believers gathered at the site who witnessed the miracle at the time. It happened before everyone’s eyes, and is an undeniable fact. The scenes were all captured on cameras. The priests and bishops wrote testimonies on the healing miracles and appended with their signatures. They even stamped their seals on them.


Maria Kwon :
Yes. The bishop of that Diocese was also a witness who even stamped his seal on his testimony. Furthermore, a lot of people witnessed it together at the site. But before that, how could they go to Ruteng?


Sr. Michaella: 
In 2006, Bishop Sangsun of Ruteng Diocese made a pilgrimage to Naju, receiving healing graces on his chronic heart disease along with many other blessings too. And before he went back home, he told Julia “I would like to invite you to Indonesia the next year, hoping that you will surely visit.”


Maria Kwon :
That means the bishop of Ruteng Diocese personally asked her to accept the invitation, didn’t he?

Sr. Michaella: 
Yes. So he invited her in March, 2007. The bishop wanted his people in the diocese to also receive the grace he received, and he even declared a temporary official holiday for 3 days in Ruteng after negotiating with the diocesan office and the executive authorities.


Maria Kwon :
Oh~ A temporary official holiday for 3 days in Ruteng! I think it signifies that it was such an important event in that region. But I think only a few people knew of the fact that the Blessed Mother of Naju and Julia Kim were invited formally to this event. Could you elaborate a little more?


Peter : 
Yes. We were invited to Bali, Indonesia where we first had a celebration and then we moved on to Ruteng. The authorities of Ruteng kindly gave us an opportunity to board a special chartered fight for 60-passengers. There were 36 people in our party, but we were told that only 30 people were allowed on that flight because the way to Ruteng was very mountainous and the weather was bad on that day.


Then, Julia said, “I can’t leave behind 6 people on the bus. Let us all take the bus together.” It came from the maternal heart of a mother. So although she could have preferred a more comfortable way but in the midst of her suffering, she preferred to take a bus with her companions plying on a rough and steep mountainous path for 5 hours in order to get there.


Maria Kwon :
Although she could have taken a special chartered fight, she chose such a tough and long way to be with the other 6 people. It is a situation whereby we could feel her deep consideration and humility for others.


Peter : 
Yes, so when we finally arrived at Ruteng by bus, the local chief of police personally guarded Julia closely with armed policemen on cars and motorcycles escorted us from the front and the back.


Maria Kwon :
As it was that much protocol, isn’t it equivalent to state guest treatment?


Sr. Michaella: 
Yes. At that time, the diocesan office and the executive authorities of Ruteng planned a motorcade parade when Julia arrived. This was so that Julia can wave to the crowd together with the statue of Our Lady of Naju on an open-topped vehicle decorated as ‘Mary’s Ark of Salvation’.  However, since it took a lot of time to go by bus, they weren’t able to stick to the plan and guided Julia directly into a regular car.
 
By the way, when we arrived in Ruteng, we were really, really surprised. The street was completely flooded with people in an acclaiming parade. About 300,000 people, who made up of about half of 600,000 people in the diocese, poured out around the church and on the streets. This blocked the way, so it was very difficult for us to get through by car. We heard that something like this has never happened since the founding of Ruteng Diocese.


Arriving late, it was already nighttime. But since so many people greeted us after waiting for Julia for more than 4-5 hours, Julia in return greeted them with a bright smile although she worn out by the hard journey.


Maria Kwon :
It’s 300,000 people who are about half of the population in the diocese. Such a huge number! As we saw in the video, how enthusiastic their countless welcomes were! Just by watching the video, I can feel it.


Peter : 
Yes~! It was really enthusiastic. And it was really amazing! I truly admired the Archbishop’s correct judgment and idea that made hundreds of thousands of believers able to receive such great grace. Ruteng Diocese was a very poor diocese. The Archbishop’s invitation to Julia, brought amazing spiritual changes to all the priests and believers in his diocese. What else can be such miracle other than this?

Maria Kwon :
Yes, indeed. Just by learning from this instance as you said it, we clearly know how good result can bring about by just one Archbishop’s right judgment.


Sr. Michaella: 
Yes. On March 24, Messages were delivered (by Julia Kim) in Ruteng Cathedral. On March 25, Messages and healing prayers were delivered by her for impaired children. During these sessions, not only public officials, teachers and students were present, but also the general people extensively participated. This made it a pan-diocesan and pan-civil conference of the Blessed Mother of Naju.


Maria Kwon :
Oh! It was really such a broad scale event for the Blessed Mother (of Naju)!

Peter : 
Correct. But, despite this fact, ‘PD Notebook’ in MBC aired a completely distorted view, and there must be a hidden intention behind this. I think Gwangju Archdiocese even collaborated with the broadcast ‘PD Notebook’ to block the truth of the Blessed Mother of Naju.


Sr. Michaella: 
That’s right. In their broadcast, for example, there appeared a woman claimed to be a local resident in Singwang-ri (where the Blessed Mother’s Mountain is). But she actually was not. The house that was presented behind her was also not in Singwang-ri. Nevertheless, they projected the broadcast and aired it as if that person was actually living there. So, the leader of Singwang-ri village responded “It doesn’t make any sense.” and testified against the broadcast.


<Footage> The leader of Singwang-ri : 
“‘PD Notebook’ showed a person who never lived in our village and showed a house which is not from here. This has aroused discord in the village and the villagers wanted to protest against the MBC reporters.”


Sr. Michaella: 
Besides that, they also fabricated and edited other facts which would be surely found out easily once we look further. The case of Ruteng is similar.

Maria Kwon :
Oh, I see. Then, Mr. Peter, you were also present in Ruteng, how was it when you went there?


Peter : 
At that time, I was right beside Julia. I still remember the situations vividly. On the 25th of March at the meeting, Julia delivered messages and the healing prayer. Afterward, she gave warm hugs to severely impaired orphans as if they were her own children, and she prayed for them by putting the (Naju) Holy Water into their eyes, ears and mouths. At that time, an extremely amazing miracle occurred when the children who couldn’t see, hear and speak, began to see, hear and speak!


In that historic and phenomenal moment, all the people witnessed the miracles. This included myself of course, the Pontianak Archbishop Bumbun, the Ruteng diocesan Bishop Sangun, and countless priests, religious and laymen. And we all shouted for joy.

Maria Kwon :
Right, the blind saw and the deaf heard! These are things only found in the Bible or in the time of Jesus. And now it is reappearing right here this time. By the way, ‘PD Notebook’ used this expression “What on earth and on what basis have Naju been proclaiming that these miracles occurred?” This nuance implies that the miracles were doubtful, doesn’t it?


Peter : 
Yes. That’s why it is a completely fabricated broadcast. If they wanted to capture it properly and check the truth, they should have met with those who were present at the scenes, including the Nuns or teachers in charge to verify the truth. When we visited Ruteng later that year in June, those who appeared as so-called witnesses in ‘PD Notebook’ were not actually in Ruteng at that time.


Maria Kwon :
You went to Ruteng again in June?


Peter : 
Yes. After visiting Ruteng in March 2007, Bishop Sangsun invited Julia again to his birthday in June. At that time, two priests came to the airport to fetch Julia and her companions with the bishop’s car. However, on the way to Ruteng, Julia and we witnessed an unexpected motorcycle accident.


The road to Ruteng is very mountainous and dangerous. A speeding motorcycle suddenly crashed into a big rock and was catapulted more than 30m. This caused the rider to fall down on the road, as his legs and arms shuddered and flapped. He started spewing blood out of his mouth and nose. Finally, he went unconscious and appeared to be dead.

Peter : 
Seeing him immediately, Julia asked the two priests to give the extreme unction for him. But the priests didn’t do it because they thought he was already dead. Then, Julia herself approached him and sprinkled and applied Naju Miraculous Holy Water on his wounds, praying over him and she blew her breath into his mouth.


After Julia prayed for him that way, to our surprise, the man was revived!
Priests refused him extreme unction as he was assumed dead. But, through Julia’s breath and earnest prayer, he was revived and talked! All of our group witnessed it together and was really amazed. Two priests who were also there gave testimonies on it.


Maria Kwon :
Oh, so, Julia was invited to visit Ruteng by Bishop Sangsun and on the way to the place, there was a big accident. When a dying man was revived through the Miraculous Holy Water and Julia’s prayer, you were there. (Peter: Yes.) Oh, this is really amazing. Then, when you visited the orphanage again, did you meet the children who were healed in March?


Peter : 
Yes! When we went there, those children who were completely healed in March went back home. And some children who had no family stayed there in good health, after completely recovering. Julia prayed for the children of the orphanage by placing the Miraculous Holy Water onto their sick parts… At this place, the miracle of 7 children who were unable to see, hear and speak were healed, happened again.


Maria Kwon :
The miracle where the children who were unable to see, hear and speak were healed, occurred again!


Peter : 
Right, Yuris who appeared in ‘PD Notebook’ had been also healed and recovered his sight. When he looked at his fingers like this, he counted the number of fingers correctly, saying one, two, like this. And he even distinguished colors. Everyone who gathered there was astonished by the situation and all of them praised God clapping together.


Sr. Michaella: 
An Indonesian lady interpreter during Julia’s visit confirmed the truth of this healing grace. The doctors from Australia, who used to visit the sick children of Ruteng every October, were very surprised to see Yuris regain sight and read well after being healed. They even suggested that Yuris go to school with normal children.


And Yuris said, “I am happy to see well now. Julia Kim prayed for me. I am happy. Thank you for calling me.”


Maria Kwon :
Right. What can be a more accurate opinion than from the doctors’ who had been seeing the child every year?  But why did the child tell a different story in the interview with ‘PD Notebook’?


Peter : 
As ‘PD Notebook’ had a bad intention from the beginning, I guess they exerted some pressure on the child.
However, Bishop Sangsun, the diocesan bishop of Ruteng, and other priest of Ruteng gave testimonies about the healing miracles occurring at the time. And Archbishop Bumbun who was there gave testimony clearly.


Maria Kwon :
Ah, the archbishop gave his testimony clearly, you mean?

Peter : 
Yes! Testimony by Archbishop Bumbun : When Julia prayed over the deaf and blind children, putting Miraculous Water into their eyes and ears, they began to see and to speak.


Sr. Michaella: 
Yes. There were the nuns and teachers who were very happy from witnessing the children getting healed. One of the teachers was also healed on Julia’s second visit. But ‘PD Notebook’ never even interviewed anyone of them during their show.


Maria Kwon :
The Sister who led the children and the teacher who was healed should be the ones to be interviewed. However, the fact is that this show (PD Note book) made people who were never related to the scene of the miracle appear in their broadcast. The broadcast made them tell lies! Yes, we are checking the fact about this part! ‘This part is really intentional distortion!’ They cannot be absolved of this blame.


Peter : 
Yes, precisely! I think that they composed the show to destroy Naju with fake contents, not only about the miracles in Ruteng, but also from the start of the show to the end.


Maria Kwon :
Yes. It’s a shame. But, today we have checked the fact that the miracles that occurred through Naju Miraculous Spring Water in Ruteng are genuinely true. Let us check the healing miracles with Naju Miraculous Spring Water in detail.


Part 2


Doubts on Naju Miraculous Spring Water – concrete evidence of healing domestically and abroad

Fact Check on the distorted broadcast about healing by the Miraculous Spring Water


- Miracles of Healing -

What’s the truth?


Maria Kwon :
Many testimonies from healing graces by the Miraculous Spring Water are still being uploaded to YouTube. Before I introduce you to this, I’d first like to do a fact check on other cases. PD Notebook’ distorted the miracle that happened in Ruteng before. They also distorted another truth and I’d like to introduce it today.


Peter : 
Yes. This was the case I myself testified when ‘PD Notebook’ visited here. This is about Thomas Jeong who was infirmed with an impaired leg. When he stood up holding a boiling pot of spicy fish stew, he suddenly felt dizzy and fell backward. The boiling spicy stew spilled onto his face.


Maria Kwon :
Oh! Boiling spicy fish stew spilled onto the face! What a terrible accident!


Peter : 
He was immediately admitted into ICU and received intensive treatment for three days. The burn was so severe that his face swelled to the point that he was unrecognizable and his eyes were unable to open. And when hot spicy stew also hit his right ear, it melted his eardrum. The doctor said, “I will try treating it, but it’ll be difficult to cure your eardrum.” 

Maria Kwon :
Ah! Not only the boiling stew burned his face, but also it even flowed into his eardrum! It must have been very serious. What happened after he entered the hospital?


Peter : 
The plastic surgeon said he needed four months’ treatment and a partial transplant surgery. After he was transferred to a regular patient room, he remembered the Miraculous Spring Water that he received in Naju during the 1st Sat prayer meeting. And with the help of his acquaintance, he drank the Miraculous Spring Water and applied it on his skin. That’s when a miracle started to occur. 

Maria Kwon :
What miracle was it?


Peter : 
Before drinking the Miraculous Spring Water, the burn was so severe that his face swelled to the point that he couldn’t even open his eyes for 9 days, and his face was required to undergo plastic surgery. But after he drank and applied the Miraculous Spring Water, he could open his eyes to his surprise.


Maria Kwon :
Oh, I’m so relieved that he could open his eyes. Because he got burned, I think the other parts of his body were also seriously affected. Did he go through transplant surgery that the doctor strongly recommended?


Peter : 
No, he didn’t. The doctor said that he needed further transplant surgery after four months of treatment. But his face was already totally healed through the Miraculous Spring Water, and he didn’t need to receive surgery. Before that, when his friends visited him, they all said that although the medical skill was very advanced, he would not be able to regain his original face. But he was completely healed through the Miraculous Spring Water in 17 days with no visible scar at all.


Maria Kwon :
It’s amazing to see that the severe burnt wounds that had even destroyed his eardrum were completely healed in 17 days. This was captured by two images comparing when he was burned, and recovered without surgery. It’s unbelievable that it’s the same person just by looking at the photos. It’s an amazing grace through the Miraculous Spring Water. Then, why did ‘PD Notebook’ broadcast the distorted information despite such clear evidence?


Sr. Michaella: 
He (Thomas) proclaimed the truth in the broadcast, “The burn was so severe that I was told to undergo many transplant surgeries despite four months of treatment”, which means he testified that he was under a dangerous situation, but he was healed by the Miraculous Spring Water. But the broadcast staff cut off his latter healing part and connected the former part to the doctor’s prior interview. The doctor said, “A superficial second-degree burn is mostly cured in two weeks if there’s no infection.” They edited it cunningly as if Thomas only got a light injury, and as if Naju exaggerated his situation and they (aired it that way). 


Maria Kwon :
Hmm, it means that although he was in a very serious condition, they (‘PD Notebook’) broadcasted as if he only had light injury which naturally recovers quickly.


Sr. Michaella: 
Yes, it did. Because facial skin is usually much thinner than skin from other areas such as the back of the body, we have to be careful otherwise we may get full thickness burn within a short time on our face. From an overseas newspaper, it was reported that a woman who got a second-degree burn on her face had much lighter burn than Thomas’, and she had to live with a terrible scar on her face permanently.


Maria Kwon :
But Thomas Jeong’s face was completely healed by the Miraculous Spring Water. How about his eardrum melted by the hot stew, did it get healed?


Peter : 
The melted eardrum, which the doctor claimed was difficult to recover, was surprisingly recovered to normalcy after drinking and applying the Miraculous Spring Water on his ear. After that, he could even make a phone call without any problem. He testified that he was so pleased and thrilled by the blessing sent upon him by the Blessed Mother.


Maria Kwon :
Oh, I see. We can say that the severe burn was definitely healed through the power of the Miraculous Spring Water. Now, let’s check the fact on the rumor that was broadcasted by ‘Investigative Report 7’. ‘Investigative Report 7’ aired contents about the Miraculous Spring Water negatively, after totally distorting its healing miracle.


Sr. Michaella: 
Yes, that’s the healing grace received by the boy named Se-hyun, who was an elementary school student in Incheon. Dr. Ricardo’s team interviewed him, and his mother also made her testimony.


The mother : 
“My son is Raymond Kang Se-hyun, and he’s 11 years old. I’m his mother, Julianna Jung Kyung-rim, and I’m 41 years old. Let me tell you about the Miraculous Water of the Blessed Mother of Naju. On Dec 14, 1999, I suddenly heard that my child collapsed in school and he was moved to hospital. When I arrived there, I was told that he was already dead. However, one pilgrim from Naju brought us the Miraculous Water. After finishing all the Water, he was able to be discharged from the hospital. Even the hospital gave up treating my child, but now he even goes back to school.”


Sr. Michaella: 
There’s also a written testimony in her letter. These are parts of it : “I heard that he was already dead on the way to ‘Gajwa St. Mary’s Hospital’. And he was also medically diagnosed as completely ‘Dead’ in ‘Gil hospital’.” Here, we can know about his state when even the hospital stopped further treatment and we can also feel the mother’s terrible sorrow for her son’s death from her letter.


Then, one Naju pilgrim brought them the Miraculous Spring Water and the Miraculous Holy Water of Naju. “I put it in the mouth of my unconscious child, and that Water was swallowed directly. It’s a miracle! Truly a miracle! To my surprise, I personally witnessed my child swallowed it without spilling out. That itself was already a great miracle.” 

Maria Kwon :
Yes! The dead can’t swallow water. So at this moment, she already perceived a miracle happened.


Sr. Michaella: 
Yes, that’s right. She said, “Since then, I frequently fed him with the Miraculous Holy Water, and I also sprinkled it around his bed. Then, finally, my child regained consciousness.”


Maria Kwon :
The one who was already diagnosed as dead by two hospitals came back to life! It’s really amazing! That’s why we can call the water “the Miraculous Spring Water”. Oh, but ‘Investigative Report 7’ reported a completely different story. Didn’t ‘Investigative Report 7’ said that the mother fed her child rice gruel together with the Miraculous Spring Water?


Peter : 
Yes, in a phone call with the woman (they claimed was his mother) during the broadcast, she said “I fed my child in ICU with a little bit of thin rice gruel, with the Miraculous Spring Water through a spoon.” But, logically speaking, how can outside food be allowed inside an ICU? Outside food is disallowed. It does not add up that a caregiver was feeding a dead child with rice gruel. The woman who said on the phone in ‘Investigative Report 7’ was not really aware of his situation and told a completely wrong story. The one on the phone was absolutely not the mother of Se-hyun.


Maria Kwon :
Yes, I see. As ‘PD Notebook’ did that, I think that ‘Investigative Report 7’ also fabricated the contents in collaboration with an imposter who told an invalid story over the phone. I think the testimony of Se-hyun’s mother and her self-written letter are the most evident and obvious facts.


Sr. Michaella: 
Yes, that’s right. The child had been diagnosed as dead on Dec 14, and he was revived by the Lord and the Blessed Mother through the Miraculous Spring Water. He was discharged from hospital on Dec 25, on the 11th day of his hospitalization. Since then, the mother went on a pilgrimage to Naju with the boy. And after he had risen from death, his skin disease also improved. Se-hyun said, “To go to Naju is to get surgery in my mind.” He added, “We have to undergo surgery to get rid of all the bad things in our mind in order to have a good mind.”


Maria Kwon :
“We have to undergo surgery to get rid of all the bad things in our mind in order to have a good mind.” The words came from a little boy, Se-hyun! His deep gratitude for regaining his new life by the grace of the Lord is also conveyed to us.


The doubt on the Miraculous Spring Water! We’ve just done a fact check on the healing cases that were distorted by two broadcasts. As there are other countless healing graces, it’s a shame that we have to conclude here temporarily, right? So let’s learn more about many other healing cases the next time.

See you again in the next episode.
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